Monday, January 24, 2011

Freewrite Peer Responses, 24 Jan

Pornography, and everyday pornography construct masculine and feminine subjectivities based in gender inequality…even when, as in some contexts, a woman takes the masculine role or a man, the feminine.- Caputi 434, “Everyday Pornography”

Using EITHER the Dragonette video “Take it Like a Man” OR the words and lyrics to “That's How You Know” from Disney’s Enchanted, use Caputi’s definition as a lens to think about the way gender and love were constructed in the primary source. How well does her definition here fit with either of these sources? Why, or why not?

Be sure to note whose paper you're responding to in your comment. I look forward to reading them!

-Megan

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  2. Response to Britny Fox's Freewrite

    What I find interesting is your mention that the male gender role in society is to prove to his woman that he loves her (through flowers, dancing, etc.). It makes me curious as to why the male is the one who must prove his love and not the female. It may be because the female more easily expresses her emotions, so when a male is found expressing his emotions it is extra special in the female's eyes. The man is also expected to go dancing with the woman when she wants to dance, even if the man hates dancing - which links with gender inequality. The man must do what the woman wants to do in order to show her he loves her, but the woman isn't always expected to do what the man wants to do.

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  4. -Response to Rachael Denholm
    I find the mention of gender inequality in a relationship appealing, in the song the idea that men are supposed to know the things which will make a women happy and should automatically know to do these things appear frequently. This makes me wonder, how are men suppose to know what their women want? I also find the statement that, in this particular song, man is being used as a subject because the women is expecting a lot of things from him. Rachael mentions that, "a man would never sing a song like this particular one." The more I think about it, the more I realize how true this statement is. Men sing frequently about expressing their love for a women and women sing both about expressing their love and asking for love; however, we rarely may hear a song about a man asking for expressions of love.

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  5. -Response to Zachary Johasa
    I think its interesting how you lead into the freewrite with the statement that male/female gender roles are switched around.This statement really grabs the attention of the reader. Another interesting point that you say there are some anomolies in the work "suggestive clothing" that fits with a woman's expected gender role in today's society. Near the end of the paper you state evidence that supports your claim and get the evidence to converse with your opinion, which I like.

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  6. -Response to Courtney Riley
    I thought it was interesting how you pointed out the actions of the actors in the movie. The woman was more excited and interested in talking about love than the man. The man was less energetic or interested. I also liked that you wrote about how women are left to interpret the actions of men to see how their feeling compared to men just telling them. You notice this in many other aspects of daily life and it often makes relationships difficult like the man having problems in the movie. I agree with your statement at the end about the movie not fitting in with the part of Caputi's definition of women taking masculine roles.

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  7. -Response to Kyle Moran
    I like how you organized each part of your freewrite into visual cues and cues in the lyrics of the Enchanted scene. I also thought it was interesting how you broke down the gender roles. The man is wearing a suit, and the woman is wearing a dress and makeup. I also thought that is was interesting how you broke down the lyrics. You say that Disney says that as a man, to show that we love a woman we have to leave notes and send flowers. I like how you backed your opinions with evidence.

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  8. Response to Hae Soo.

    I found it interesting the way you identified both men and women as the cause of pornography. You said that women tend to be led into temptation by men, through their frame, looks, and personality. And in tern men will be tempted by these women. It is interesting to me how you make the claim that men who follow pornography tend to be sexual criminals, due to sexual assault or rape. You say that people believe that many follows of pornography are rapists and sex offenders, I agree with you that this is a valid assumption.

    Nick Bollinger

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  9. Response to Stephanie Faddis.

    Your mention of Giselle's innocence in the song was particularly interesting to me, especially because in that way I agree that the song isn't necessarily pornography. The idea that the song is more of a character portrayal than a subjectification of women (though it does prescribe to typical idea of what women want in love) I also think puts it outside the definition of Caputi's pornography.

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  10. Response to Nick Bollinger.

    I found it interesting that you say that the song "How Do You Know" implies that it is the man's job to show he loves a woman by doing things for her. I don't think it is necessarily a job as it is just a showing of affection. I do agree with you though when you say the video of "Take it like a Man" backs up the definition given by Caputi, where men and momen appear to switch roles.

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  11. Response to Michael Huhn

    I agree the lyrics did suggest that she was taking the masculine role and the men were taking the feminine, however the actual video seemed different. Like you said, she played roles of nurse, secretary, etc. which are very stereotypical women roles.

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  12. Response to Drew Stone:
    He did a good job of identifying that the "Take it Like a Man" video by Dragonette reverses the typical or rather stereotypical roles of men and women. Many of the roles are reversed. I agree with him that this video is a very good example of what Caputi was talking about in the definition of pornography and everyday pornography. The Enchanted video better exemplifies the beginning of the definition. Women have ideals of how men should act and what masculine means to women. Drew points out that men should buy flowers and sing songs even though they don't generally want to. I agree that this song clearly shows the gender inequalities.

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  13. Response to Minghao Dai-
    I agree with what was said about how the song "How do you know" from Enchanted shows women in a much more masculine role than the men. The women are much more confident in saying that they are in love and are not ashamed to admit it. The men in the song was much more afraid of saying that they are in love and deny that they are. The roles were reversed somewhat since most men are much more confident in saying how they feel about something and the women are more shy. This being true would go along with what Caputi's definition was saying about being at either extreme of being masculine or feminine.

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  14. freewrite response to kyle jones

    definitely agree with what you said about dragonette trying to make a point on how men can use women and using the reversal of gender roles to accomplish it. you hit the point of this when you said she was mocking the men by telling them to 'take it like a man'. the gender inequality that caputi talks about confirms your analysis.

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  15. Freewrite response to Rob Flannery

    I found it interesting that Rob mentioned how the depiction of sexual desires around one gender does not necessarily mean that one gender is being portrayed as superior. When people have fantasies, it (most oftenly) involves the opposite gender; this is the main reason why one gender or the other is said to be "objectified". Also, Rob points out that in each movie, ad, or video, it's only actors who are working to sell something to you, the consumer. I agree with this statement, that people should not always nit-pick an ad; people should be able to take a step back and see that it is only an actor or actress that is trying to sell a product.

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  16. Response to Molly
    I degfinitely agree with on the facet that society has assigned different and unequal roles for men and women and that men have to show their love in buying things.Also, the exposure of women's insecurities is a good point and materialism has a hand in that.

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  17. Freewrite,
    The song "That's How You Know" shows what is expected in today's society. Women want men to prove to them that they're really in love. It's become a common thing for cheating to occur in relationships and people are beginning to view it as acceptable. Men and women both want to know that their partner truly loves them. Words cannot always be believed, sometimes you have to see something to believe it. Men are typically known to not show their feelings because they don't want to look weak. Therefore, if a man is willing to risk his masculinity for his women, she will know he loves her. In the video, the man is being told to take on a more feminine role. To do sweet little things like sending flowers, or risking embarassment to dance with her. Gender inequality is expressed in the lyrics of the song.

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  18. Response to Daniel Lee -

    It makes sense to say that men are seen in the typical feminine subjectivity. Although the men in the video are clearly the physical definition of masculine, the lyrics and the imagery portray the lead singer as having the manly, controlling role. This supports Caputi's statement that someone must always take the masculine and feminine roles, whether they be the natural order or not.

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  19. Response to Travis

    What I find interesting is that you said subjectivities of each gender are so drilled into our heads that we can't draw away from them. This could explain why genders are put into predetermined categories that they need to be like and it is learned as we grow up. People are easily affected by the habitual thinkings, which sometimes lead us to wrong ways.

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